Keith Schroeder (author) from Wisconsin on January 08, 2011: Don, that is why I recommend buying through Amazon so you have their return policy protection. I don't care who it ripping me off if I am getting ripped off. Now, that may seem cold to some of you, but no other heater identical to this one is going to do any better and if they are not this safe, you would have to have your central heat on. Bob Villa EdenPURE Heaters Are a Scam! - Dengarden If a simple electric space heater can cut energy consumption by 50 percent, then the government may wish to promote the product with tax incentives in order to break Americas dependence on foreign oil. Like EdenPure it uses the same technology, 'infrared quartz tube + PTC'.this is what gives the heaters the longevity. I also have a $39.99 portable oil radiator heater that I purchased from Lowes. The Edenpure is better than most electric heaters because Of how it creates its heat. I have a completely electric home and wanted to reduce my electric bill as it is very high now. You still need them. Doubled Electric bill, no effect on gas consuption. Connect with Us PH: (269) 428-2723 PH: (877) 494-9357 Contact Us I have no complaints. A btu IS a btu, weather you use oil, wood, propane, electricity, gasoline, kerosene, camel dung, or a candle to make the heat. And third, it provides soft radiant heat that EVENLY spread around the room. Outputs range from 75,000 Btu to 450,000 Btu. When the heating fuel prices were high, Quartz heaters helped by heating the rooms you lived in during the day and so the funace runs less. CLAIM: [Other heaters with] cheap ceramic plates reduce humidity. EdenPURE claims it uses a copper coil to reduce harsh heat. They have two 1000 watt and 1500 watt settings and will heat 200 sq feet, but from what I read, the 1500 watt setting is using more electricity. If you look at the stats, they use far more electricity..the ones I just looked at on the Green Site do and they are not inexpensive. Cost between 30% and 60% less per hour of operation than wood-burning fireplaces Emit 40 times fewer emissions than wood-burning units and cost less to operate They can be turned off easily with a switch, eliminating concern about remaining embers Propane gas-burning cooktops and ovens. If you buy one of the cheapies to make do, your dollars are going out the window. The most common type of heat pump is the air-source heat pump, which transfers heat between your house and the outside air. The BTU (British Thermal Unit) was developed for flame based heat, not electricity. FACT: Nonsense. Edin Pure has more competition so their price should be competitive if they want to stay competitive. Qualifying programs are: Capacity Bidding Program (CBP)* - available for residential customers. Bill Burkett fights back | Salon.com The cost was going to be $10,000. I have gas heat but use this at night to warm my bedroom, rather than raise the thermostat to heat the whole house. I called the order number 1-800-458-5614 and got someone and had to request a supervisor and it took a while but they got me one on the phone. Asked store manager about the eden pure heater and when we looked online, the same 1500 watt unit is rated at the same 5000+ btu's. I don't know where the originator here got the cubic feet, but that is not from the EdenPure advertisiing. But, to satisfy the originator of this, no I would not buy another EdenPure. THINK ABOUT IT. See who you know. 4) Contrary to this article and many of its posts, the reason why infrared heaters have been so successful is not because of slick marketingprimarily it has been word of mouth. This biographical article related to the United States military is a stub. Received two as a gift, have to run them both simultaneously to only get very modest heat. Because it works and dose save money especially if you have bad heating in your house. In other words a room measuring 6' x 7'. Heat from any 1500 watt electric heater will cost you $35.60 for 1 million btus of heat if you are paying 12 cents a KWH. Bigger homes and those in colder climates cost. Many times, the ductwork system in these homes are the coiled ductwork types that gets holes poked in it, or is otherwise leaky ductwork. BTW, I did see a DuraFlame (the maker of the duraflame logs) had a heater with a description that was practically identical to the EdenPure and it was only approximately $225. When I pulled the heater out this winter nothing happened. In looking into getting an fared heater, I did a lot of research. I borrowed a friends EdenPure 1000. Baseboard heating provides far more uniform heat distribution. There are millions of happy customers who are telling their friends. I remodeled a mobile home and replaced the insulation and added drywall. Jobinhoud: Voor een familiebedrijf in Ranst gaan wij op zoek naar een Customer Service Officer die zal fungeren als centraal aanspreekpunt voor onze klanten.Je helpt hen enthousiast verder bij vragen ivm het productaanbod, prijzen, bestellingen & klachten.Verder bestaat jouw takenpakket uit: Afhandelen van eigen dossiers (bestelbonnen aanpassen, lijsten opmaken, leveringen/retourbons inzetten,) I also agree with your opinion on products sold by celebrities. Keith Schroeder (author) from Wisconsin on December 27, 2011: Let us know how the EdenPURE works for you, the man. I was specifically sold on Bob Vila's endorsement of the product thinking I can trust the home improvement guru. I just received the flyer in my mail box regarding the Eden Pure Heater and am glad that I researched this on your website. Vince DeAntonio ( D. B. Sweeney) is a former college football offensive coordinator, who abruptly resigned five years earlier, and has now become coach at the high school. [2] Fan heaters are the cheapest, but are often the least efficient and versatile. I know others you spoke with like theirs, but it would be helpful to all readers to hear your experience. These systems the japanese use do not use ducts!!! Loves them! Radiator Vs. Heater to Save on Your Electricity Bill Bill Burr announced spring and summer North American dates for his Live Nation produced 2022 arena and amphitheater tour, Bill Burr (Slight Return), visiting 23 cities from April through August including Rocket Mortgage FieldHouse on April 23, 2022. Enjoyed reading all the above comments, all valid points, but with all the back and forth opinions, I feel like I've been watching a tennis match. I could not see any savings at all. I was going to purchase another EdenPure this year for the downstairs, but after seeing the .25 per hour and calculating the cost, that will not save money. Hogwash. Now, if you doubt that I read that or that it can be true, the next one I copied and pasted for the guy who said 1500 watts is 1500 watts and will put out the same. Point is, I finally bought a Dr Heater and it works way better than any other heater I have tried in my basement and I tried them all! I have a 1400 watt heat gun and my wife has a 1800 watt hairdryer. Heater vs. AC unit. [5], Burkett's claims about the origins of the documents have since changed several times. Build a mounting box out of 2 x 4 lumber and 3/4-inch plywood that will allow you to mount the new tankless water heater about four inches out from the wall. They make for a much more comfortable room than ceiling fans. I can prove that is nonsense in 3 seconds in my house. A btu is a btu is a btu. Even a child knows that hot air rises. Like most people have said, 1500 watts of electric energy is just that, 1500 watts, Doesn't matter if it come out of a $20 Walmart heater or a $400 Eden, it'll do the same thing. This is the second blog I have complained on. I live in the South, and that is high for me (keep in mind I have not experienced this because I have not used it 24 hours a day). I used to like him on this old house , but like many of the over the hill broke celebs. All I did was laugh when the very reputable heating and air company in our town quoted this amount. Zero marketing at that point. They make you confused with names, like US 1000, GEN 4 1000, GEN 3 1000. the first home I woned was a manufactured home, and I first used zone-heating to beat the cost of heating the outdoors through the leaky ducts (until I repaired them, of course !) It is a well-marketed $40 electric heater selling for $400 or more. For those of you who have high summer bills, I saved $1500 over the spring and summer months by setting my thermostat on 80 degrees and using floor fans (not box fans, but those on a stand, those that put out a lot of air). I WAS FREEZING. The person who stated the baseboard is just as efficient may be right about it being as efficient, but only in the sense that it heats the room. After reading all the comments, there is no way that I will save any money with this EdenPure Heater and will not order this. You are just cutting costs by heating a smaller areasomething you could have done without a $400 space heater. so I'm told we will send you another RFH I don't think so on the customer service center letterhead it states OUR GOAL IS IOO% CUSTOMER SATISFACTION. I have 1250 sq ft upstairs and 1250 downstairs. I used to think Alex Trebec was an honorable man, but after seeing him and others like him offer this insurance that IS a SCAM for seniors, I have no respect for him. Commercial Boilers. State notices to consumers [affirm.com/licenses]. http://pelletheat.org/pellets/compare-fuel-costs/. Referrals increase your chances of interviewing at IMPACT by 2x. Look at fuel price comparisons, you'll see that electric heat is by far the most expensive. yes my electric bill is higher when i run the eden pure, but my gas bill is greatly lowered, my main furnance mainly runs during the day when we are a work, because i dont like leaving the eden pure running when we are not home. So, that means 50,000 in insurance is going to cost that senior 500. a month. If you have 5000 BTU, you can comfortably heat a space around 100-200 sq.ft with outside temperature of 20-30 F and typical insulation. My heating bill was $30 month versus $90 in kersosene and the side effects it left.I had to install a heavier wire to carry the amp's but it worked when I needed a heavier heater(1000)I think oil companies will do anything to keep you hooked,my dad(81)spent $800 for a couple months,got a few heaters and saved a bundle. For under $100, you can buy a better-looking, better-built heater that will serve your needs for years to come. And, regardless of what someone said about 1500 watts is 1500 watts and is going to heat the same area, that is not what I have read and have posted (copied and pasted from advertisements). Call now at (937) 773-8350 to schedule a service request today This Ken guy below me is an idiot and so are all those so called engineers that claim you get the same heat from any 1500 watt heater. Night storage heaters | Centre for Sustainable Energy - CSE Call your agent or insurance company if you have any questions. For all those engineering types, HVAC types, etc. I've found that by partial disassembling them and placing a tiny drop of oil at the motor bearing points they will run for MANY years past their obsolescent date. Whether you like the article or not - the simple fact is any cost savings you are seeing by using an Eden Pure heater is due to the use of "zone heating" I.e. EdenPURE - World Leader in Innovative Products - Edenpure.com [7] Burkett said he burned the originals after faxing copies of the documents to CBS. Hi everyone . Any way, thank you. The American Free Enterprise system only works if we work it. ELECTRICAL ENGINEER on December 16, 2012: First of all, 120vac appliances are very inefficient compared to 220vac. A 1500 watt heater is a 1500 watt heater REGARDLESS of how much you promote it or charge for it! Why oil-filled? The pilgrim done swallowed the hook too. So, I turned on the EdenPure, had it on high, which I didn't need to do, and my upstairs is varying from a toasty 70 degrees to 67 at the farthest areas from the EdenPure. Christo T 575 subscribers Subscribe 87K views 5 years ago How to change the Thermostat settings on Bradford. Mr.Vila and Eden Pure do you really think it is fair game on humanity to peddle your wares on them? I would rather have on sweats, even with another shirt under and be comfortable with my $200. What a total scam and very disappointed with Bob Vila!! when you look at the other sales websites they state in stock but edenpures states out of stock so they have to make it to sell it. d.william from Somewhere in the south on December 01, 2011: Good article. No more, no less. As well as my cats! PDF High Efficiency Water Heaters - Energy Star I finally find the place and they said i only had 30 days warranty not 60 days. It has exactly the same power of 1000 to 2000 Watts as everything else including EdenPure. THIS is the reason the heating companies have zone heating. Installing a water heater replacement costs between $845 and $1,698, or an average of $1,271, for a tank-based unit and labor. I would not recommend this product to anyone who is trying to save money while trying to stay warm. This means it produces 5118 BTU of heat. Bought one of the USA made heaters last year and found the heater to be less effective than any of the other electric heaters I have used in the past. Once these last bulbs burn out, I will no longer use this over priced heater. Think about it, if you heat with gas you turn this thing on and turn the gas down then the increase in your electric bill well more than makes up for what you save on gas. Paying almost $400.00 an Edenpure with needing bulbs every two years, these are no longer a savings, Biotech Research lends their name Edenpure out to all these little retailers who soak you on the price of the heating bulbs. Hello everyone,Wow what a group of knowledge about the Eden pure heater glad that I came upon this Hub.I find the info very good, and I would like to thank all of you for your comments especially Energy Eng.,Lots of good suggestions and just good ole plain sense.I've been looking at getting one of the Eden pures and just trying it out to see if it will accommodate some of my heating needs.My wife and I are not sure what type to get ,but we know that the basic hearter furnance is not the most efficient.We will try it and get back to you all.Again thanks for the info and the laughs.God bless and have a wonderful Christmas and Holidays. SPACE HEATER WITH PRETREATED HEAT EXCHANGER - Burkett, William W. The point has been made of how some feel about it. You don't get this risk with the Eden pure . I am filing complaints against EdenPure ad commercials where I can, and working to get my mother's money back! After calling the hardware store that sold the heater was told I would have to contact the company who finally sent a shipping label but the instructions say that you must use the original box. Delivery & Pickup Options - 214 reviews of Bill's Burgers, Wings & Things "New venture by the owners of the Maxican Restaurant here in Burnet. It just says if you use an Eden Pure heater to do "zone heating"I you will save money. Debra Breckenridge on September 20, 2011: I bought an Eden hearter last Dec. The reason why you can save on your utility bill is because you only heat a limited area of your home instead of heating areas not in use. And yes the personal heater that heats 50 s f is only the size Of a prison cell. We have provided heating and air conditioning services to residential and commercial homeowners since 1981. PUT A THRMOSTAT IN EACH LARGE ROOM IN YOUR HOUSE THEN INSTALL A SWITCHER TO CONTROL EACH THERMOSTAT IT CUT MY BILL IN HALF. is way overpriced for what it does. I don't think this is a good business now I have a machine that doesn't work. I feel perfectly safe with the EdenPure and I probably would with the DuraFlame. I to have an Edenpure system that I purchased for my basement. They definitely do state 1000 SQ.FT., not cubic feet.I really don't need you to explain to me the difference in cubic feet and square feet. The documents, purported to have been typed in the early 1970s, were likely produced many years later with a computer using Microsoft Word on default settings. The Gen 3 and 4 buyers beware, you're just the new victoms, your heating bulbs will probably be higher, because they are newer and new and improved. The EP does not outperform the Lasko. I've been in the HVAC field for 40 years. So people, please pay attention to this post and others like it and don't fall victim to this Biotech/Eden pure scam. Have i used them. The heat is a soft even heat and is extremely comfortable. EdenPURE sells their heaters all day long on their website for $247 plus free shipping so where you got your $400 figure is a mystery. Eden Pure is a scam because the details are hidden in clever word usage the average person, many of them on here I see, cannot grasp. I own a 500 and a 1000,I have breathing problems,used kerosene heaters and about died,plus it cost me $90 or more to warm and leave my house and clothes reeking of kerosene oil!I used the 500 watt in fairly cold weather. Another thing that I doubt some of you would do to save $$$ on your electricity is to get used to the early morning cooler temps by wearing sweats. Other heaters I've used don't keep the rooms warm because the controls don't allow the versatility that the EdenPure does. Ductless Heating & Cooling. My house has two geothermal units in it, one went out the week of Christmas and I couldn't get anyone in to work on it. The EdenPure heater uses 1500 Watts. I plugged it in this spring to take the chill out. HubPages is a registered trademark of The Arena Platform, Inc. Other product and company names shown may be trademarks of their respective owners. From $15 to the cheapest electric coil and fan garage heater (which I wound NOT recommend as it actually burns oxygen in the air), to $250 fancy infrared "wood stove-looking" (electric, of course) heater. Those watts exactly represent the energy you will get. All of your honest comments and reviews have just saved me from making a huge and costly mistake. EdenPURE claims stretch the truth. What a bunch of scam artists. If you are going to call names and state things are scams, what do you think about these celebrities, who we would normally feel are honest, endorsing the senior life insurances they state is ONLY 9.00 per UNIT. Electric space heaters fall into four main categories: fan heaters, ceramic, infrared, and oil-filled. I do not believe Bob Villa has used one for the main heating in his home, but I do believe he has likely used it for zone heating. Anybody can sell anything and make great claims and never have to prove them.I am a electrican and 1500 watts is 1500 watts no matter what shape or size. Our house is more than 2800 square feet (not cubic feet) and we have the heater down stairs. I don't doubt people are saving money using the Eden Pure heater because "zone heating"I has to save money by not heating unused areas. [3][4] According to the review panel, investigations by major news outlets at the time, including CBS, "revealed inconsistencies which led to questions regarding his credibility and whether his claims could be proven". Everything is on the website and on the adverts. Turned on in December. Frankly, I think enough has been said about the EdenPure. Most of these testimonials are not of much use. They are usually a rip-off. He is retired as a Lieutenant Colonel from the Texas Army National Guard . Nothing has changed. Bob Vila gave two types of scenarios. In repairing my ductwor, I found one unattached duct that was heating my attic! My last post was cut off - 2) A btu is a btu 1500 watts is 5100 btu's .That is all you can put on a 120 volt 15 amp curcuit . Mobile homes are really bad for heat loss. Keith Schroeder (author) from Wisconsin on January 12, 2011: Cold in Mass, you can only run your heater 1 1/2 hours at .17 a kilowatt, not all night. Keith Schroeder (author) from Wisconsin on February 19, 2019: This article was published a few years back when EdenPURE advertised their heaters at $400. References. I have used these and recommended (I'm an electrician/contractor) the inexpensive ones to people who have cold spots in their larger rooms (rec rooms, basement, master bedroom) with good results, but if you think a 1500 watt 5000 BTU electric heater will keep any 1000 either square foot or cubic foot space a comfortable 70 degrees, you're dreaming, especially if the temp is below 40 degrees. Was given to me as a gift and I'm looking to buy a second unit for my second floor. Mine stopped working 2nd yr. @$400 no thanks! The EdenPURE portable electric heater is a scam by my count. Zone heat is just that whether you use a single zone heater or have your central system set up that way. Put an infrared heater in your bedroom. A radiant barrier works best in the attic. It can be a $20 heater from Walmart or a $400 Eden Pure. I have two Eden Pures in my home and they really work. The best way to save money (in the long run), is to not only comply with your electricity company replacing things in your home that will give you a lower rate per kwh. There was an ad/coupon in the Sunday paper and then I caught the informercial on tv and felt I had found a good thing. I was just about to order an edenpure heater. of insurance. Gas Pool Heaters - Department of Energy First of all, because it is silent. That's common sense. Many people who complain about heat pump performance (it blows cold air, it's expensive to operate, etc.) We have the 1000, and the 1000XL, the are the first ones. With the cost of propane today at over $5.49/gal anything you can do to offset propane useage is a ++++++. Connect with Us 5360 Red Arrow Hwy, Stevensville, MI 49127 PH: (269) 428-2723 PH: (877) 494-9357 Contact Us List of ENERGY STAR Energy Efficient Products | ENERGY STAR Price? Certainly the bedrooms are cooler, but remember it is a zone heater not meant to warm the entire area of 1250 sq ft, although the bedrooms are not cold. Divide watts by 1,000 to get kilowatts per hour. There are none so blind as those who will not see. I bought Edenpure heater in December 2010 and my january heating bill doubled, and what they sent to me is not what I ordered from them. Since you heat all the air, nor just the first 12 inches off the floor, cubic feet measurments are required. It was fantastic and a threw a lot more heat than the electric oil radiator type. I did buy a small Pelonis ceramic heater 20 years ago for $100, and it still works. THiS IS FOR JIMS COMMENT,IF U HAVE A HOT WATER HEATER THINK ABOUT WHAT UR SAYING IF THE WATER IS HOT U DONT NEED TO HEAT IT. This scam reminds me of Obama: you can pretty much lie and say anything you want for a long time and get away with it ! One On One BV hiring Customer Service Officer in Ranst, Flemish Region Payment options through Shop Pay Installments are subject to an eligibility check and are provided by these lending partners: [affirm.com/lenders]. Also, dont buy Cub Cadet. Yes, Using a Space Heater Could Save You Hundreds on Heating Costs This It is likely that Sylvania gets the rated 20,000 hours of bulb life in their normal testing fixtures / burn racks. This has been disputed. I live on a mountain in Colorado. Thanks for the good info that saved me. I'm absolutely thrilled with my unit. Because heating a wire is less efficient to heating a infared light you can't do a comparison. Bobby Burkett ( Logan Huffman) is a promising quarterback for a struggling high-school football team. Answer: You will need to review your homeowner's policy to see if this heater is covered. Dose the Edenpure save you money? 2) a btu, Also, for anyone who's interested, the fans in the small forced air heaters typically fail after about two years. Patents by Inventor Bill Burkett. Needless to say, i WILL NOT be buying any expensive heating units with misleading claims of their efficiency and lower monthly savings. For under $100, you can buy a better-looking, better-built heater that will serve your needs for years to come. The above people are correct, you can only get so much heat out of a given amount of electricity. It's CFM rate is horrible vs. a fan forced electric heater. Suarez Corporation Industries is advertising a 20,000 hour bulb life and a 10-15 year "service" life (website, printed literature and printed on carton) for both their Edenpure US-1000 and Gen4 heaters. Press the space key then arrow keys to make a selection. Is it reliable. Ive been heating the entire house with 3 Edenpure heaters (only turn on one downstairs when Im there). He was telling the UPS lady that he could never contact anyone at the company and what a piece of overpriced junk it was. CLAIM: With other heating sources, you'll notice you get sleepy because they are burning up oxygen. Saying you might cut your heating bill in half is a lie. Realize that Villa talks about all of the heat loss from the furnace ductwork, then tells you to turn the rest of your house down to 65deg (using this same furnace he rails about)and the EP will keep you toasty, ROFL. Sorry to sound so negative in my postings here, it's just I hate to see people get taken, especially someone who believes what they are sold on TV infomercials like these. i bought an eden pure heater for both myself and my elderly father and neither one will turn on after the first few times we used them with the screen flashing "not level" even though i used a level to verify they were sitting level .unfortunately this issue was not discovered until the start of the second year of use. My Gen 4 burned out in 2 years, Eden pure company claims they will send me new quartz heating tubes but I want Bob Villa here to fix it!!!! do EVERYTHING that these $400 dollar SNAKE OIL heaters do!! I cannot comment about the energy saving from the Edenpure Gen 4 as it quit working about 2+ months after it was purchased on EBay from Bass Pro Outlets. dont buy one these heaters mine was wsed for fore mounths and now it quit wrote them they said the tubes are 36.00 plus 6.95 shipping. That claim of a 20,000 bulb life in an Edenpure heater is completely false. Get notified about new Tester jobs in Ranst, Flemish Region, Belgium. In fact, I had to get up and turn down the heat later as I was sweating. Unfortunately the answer is "No, the efficiency is identical.". Burkett, William W. (Galena, MO, US) Burkett, Glenda Sue (Galena, MO, US) Application Number: 10/996346 . Common applications include space heating, cooking, water heating and industrial processes. 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