Associated taxes and fees are the responsibility of winners. We dont always need full power loads and my more pleasant shooting loads are assembled with H4227. The .357 Magnum was developed as a joint effort between Smith & Wesson (S&W) and Winchester, and was formally introduced in 1935. Note: A full Most loads will work fine in a sixgun as long as they chamber in the cylinder, however the levergun can be pickier. Big enough that components can be easily handled, small enough not to need special gear, and common enough to be inexpensive. I'd like to shoot a few hundred rounds before I do that. It's awful hard to beat a powder like 296. If youre looking for target loads on 38/357 than any fast burning pistol powder will work. I prefer the Unique or Universal as unique seems to work for all my handgun loads. I'll expand and experiment once I fully understand what I'm doing. (IV) Winners must undergo a background check (if required) and comply with all other federal, state and local laws. Ive never seen a 90-grain load in a store. Vihtavuori provides load data for .38 Special, .357 Magnum, .44 Special, .44 Magnum and .45 Colt. No purchase necessary. Gregory, I've tried over the years, if I was "tailoring" a load to a specific handgun (especially barrel length), to pay attention to the "burn rate" of the powder. My Speer manual says that Magnum Primers need to be used with w296 and h110 has anyone loaded these powders with standard primers and if so was there any difference? All information is provided "as is" with all faults without warranty of any kind, either express or implied. Montana Fish, Wildlife & Parks, State Agency: It may not display this or other websites correctly. An alternative is the Buffalo Bore 180-grain hard-cast. For hard cast work up to no more than 6.7grs max Winchesters data, MV is 1360 fps and the ME is 575 ft. lbs. Rhode Island Department of Fish & Wildlife, State Agency: Note: Hodgdon as of 2009 controls IMR and Winchester Powders. Free shipping for many products! Most everything else unique or bullseye. AA#9 and a few others in the same burn rate range are . Employees and agents of Publishers Development Corp. are not eligible. For pure laughs, I love a heavy charge of W231 with a 130 grain lead bullet to produce a near-dusk fireball; but more serious recipes are certainly available. I've found it to be a good all around powder for most straight wall handgun cartridges. Will you get good performance out of both calibers? Washington Department of Fish & Wildlife, State Agency: Bestseller No. Here, I like to shoot a .357 magnum case loaded with a copper-plated 158 grain flat point projectile and a Bullseye charge calibrated to the gun to just make the power factor of 105. This is a good load. Shooters have been arguing for nearly 85 years as to whether the .357 Magnum is suitable for use on deer. Also, started with SP Magnum primers and had about 10 % misfires and unburned powder in lighter loads. The bullet gets a clean kill without fragmenting. No substitutions or transfers to third parties allowed. Lets cut to the chase. As others have said, Power Pistol. This is not John Waynes revolver it is a modern work of art! ticket for many big game hunting applications and for defense in the Today, you can take your pick of outstanding hollowpoint or expanding-point bullets. According to Quickload .357 data using a .357, 158, Sierra JSP FN 8340. with unavoidable grey area. I've considered H110, but didn't know if it would be a good "all around" powder. This morning I shot my first 357mag handloads in my Ruger GP-100. New. It is just a guide and the reason you should start under these charges and work up. In the .357 for heavy loads I have come to love Hodgdon's Lil'Gun w/magnum primers. Maine Department of Inland Fisheries & Wildlife, State Agency: The .357 Magnum is probably the most widely-used revolver cartridge today, managing to thrive in an era where the wheelguns and associated cartridges are growing scarce. These will give you some versatility with power levels from medium to heavy magnum loads and they work well in several calibers. The same cartridge and rifle can be used for predator control if you occasionally find the need to deal with marauding coyotes and like to keep a gun by the back door. Super clean burning. But in those three disciplines, the .357s potential is going untapped, you could argue. MLittle. I use Clays in .38s. Your mileage may vary. I'm looking for a really strong suggestion for two different loads. 231 is fine for a 38 load but not slow enough for a full house 357. 357 Magnum (Cowboy Action) 38 Special (Cowboy Action) 38-40 Win. This loading breaks 1,340 fps in my four-inch barrel Python. It looks like anything over 950 fps is pretty much topping out the range for this revolver. The various 125-129 Take it from a guy that chased for the holy grail of powder to do both well for over a yearjust buy two different powders. All Rights Reserved, it doesnt show its potential unless you start handloading it. Sounds like you used a standard primer. Giveaway prizes may have evidence of being test fired or exhibit minor handling marks. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. Contest void where prohibited by law. bullet to a MV of 1352 fps. Not only is this excellent accuracy, it is a significant increase in muzzle velocity. 2400, CFE Pistol, BE-86, Power Pistol, Sport Pistol. Be sure to enter theNES/MFS March Giveaway ***Taurus G3c***. Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth. Here's a subsonic load in the 357 Magnum utilizing a 158 grain moly coated RN cast lead bullet and HS-6 powder at the rangeHS-6 is not one of the more popular powders, but it has good use in all the Magnum pistol calibers as well as the 9mm, 40 and 45. A comprehensive used reloading setup often comes well below the price of a new gun, and if you have one, it can make your existing Magnums so diverse in function its like owning multiple guns. Box 488, Escondido, CA 92033. Gregory, just to give you an idea about Unique, I have loaded 357 mag with a 158 jacketed round to 7.5 grains using Winchester primers. $175.00. All entries must be received by giveaway end date. I have been reloading the .357 Magnum since the middle 1960's. I have found Winchester W231 and Hodgdon HS-6 powders excellent for low and medium velocity loads and H-110, W296 and Hercules 2400 powders excellent for . For heavy loads, the Speer Every cowboy needs a revolver. To protect the privacy and security of winners, names will not be made public. The .357 Mag is one of the most flexible handgun rounds. Iowa Department of Natural Resources, State Agency: But for all that inherent diversity, Ive found theres a single cartridge that lets me cover most bases while keeping expense down and enjoyment up. Second Media Corp., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. The 140 grain bullet can From my perspective in this stage of my life if I could have only one centerfire rifle, it would be a .357 Magnum levergun, with my first choice being the Marlin 1894. . grain bullets are the top choices for personal defense against "bad So many options, so little experience! All entries must be received by giveaway end date. Come join the discussion about performance, gunsmithing, troubleshooting, reviews, accessories, classifieds, and more! (III) Giveaway winner(s) chosen by random drawing. Made from a flexible urethane material. JHP, 125 gr. 38/. So, youll need a .357 magnum firearm and a reloading press to really enjoy the cartridge. It burns much cleaner than Bull's Eye and gives great accuracy. For any loads over 900 FPS, I suggest using a jacketed bullet. It would be great if I could also use it for .44 mag and .44 special. cartridges. Winchester #209 Primers for Shotshells. These are superbly accurate at distances up to 100 yards and pushed by a stout load of 2400 powder. The minimum charge of WW296 (H-110 same stuff ) Winchester used to publish in the re-loading pamphlet was 14.5gr and SP Magnum primer, under a 158gr SWC. Unique and Winchester 231 seem to be two common powders that show up under both calibers in the Hornady reloading manual. Contest open to U.S. residents only. North Dakota Game & Fish Department, State Agency: While the revolver divisions of IPSC and IDPA are dwindling in participation numbers, theyre extremely rewarding to focus on. I'm just looking to load plinking rounds. Copyright 2004, 2016 by Chuck Hawks. Although a lot of factory ammo for the .357 is loaded light in deference to all those 80 year old guns out there, a full power .357 S&W Mag with those light 125 grain bullets (remember, the cartridge was made for 158 grain bullets at a published velocity of 1500 f.p.s. It's also useful in somewhat reduced loads for the 357 and 44 magnum cartridges. )(2009 Note: Some of these loads are from 1996 and in the passing years the powder companies have reduced their maximum loads particularly ones that have been around a long time like Unique. They show 2400 as the best powder to use for reloading the .357 Magnum cartridge. containers. Giveaway prizes may have evidence of being test fired or exhibit minor handling marks. A forum community dedicated to Smith & Wesson firearm owners and enthusiasts. It was not long before Winchester Model 1892s originally in .32-20 were converted to .357 Magnum. It is just a guide and the reason you should start under these charges and work up. It won't give velocities QUITE as impressive as H110 or IMR-4227, but it can be started at 10% under max . JHP, (WC= WadCutter, SWC= Semi-WadCutter, HP= Hollow Point, RN= Round Nose), SP=Soft Point, (JHP= Jacketed Hollow Point and if GC indicated, means Gas Check at bottom of lead bullet), (Note: These are near maximum loads, you should use 10% less to start. Basic Reloaders Manual (1996) Speer Reloading Manual, #12 Winchester .357 hunting loads can be tweaked to take deer sized game and smaller. can also shoot all .38 Special ammunition. "I'm not often right but I've never been wrong. However, it gains right at 400 fps from the 18-1/2 Marlin 1894 and puts three shots in 3/4 at 45 yards. I need to pick up projectiles for 38 and 357 for a 357 Ruger Revolver and a Rossi lever. Bullseye is also good in .38 Special. Recipe for 230 grain round nose powder coated .45ACP, Need couple pieces of 38 SC or 38 TJ brass. However, I've read Unique is hard to meter. South Carolina Department of Natural Resources, State Agency: for quite some time. Unique is a wonderful choice, but as Beagle333 stated I cannot find any. On the other hand, 16.2 No substitutions or transfers to third parties allowed. You can add Hodgdon Lil'Gun for heavier bullet in the .357 Magnum. New Mexico Department of Game & Fish, State Agency: No purchase necessary. 6 shots and point the muzzle upwards before each shot across a chronograph and 6 shots with the muzzle pointed down over the same chronograph. 12 gauge. Instead I recommend switching your powder load to Blue Dot and loading up a 180 grain lead bullet. You can. This year, H&R announced an expansion of its AR-15 lineup, bringing additional "retro" models to the market, including a 9 mm Luger-chambered Colt SMG clone, an M16A2-styled rifle and the carbine-size 723. I'm old school though , been loading since mid eighties , haven't tried the newer powders on the market. Factory warranties may apply in some cases. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. These bullets have a cannelure. One for heavy loads and one for light. New York Department of Environmental Conservation, State Agency: However, load them in the Henry Big Boy and we pick up 375 fps and 250 fps respectively. Federal Centerfire Primers. I am looking for a powder I can use for both lead/target loads for the 357 Magnum that I can also use for 38 Special loads. Clays OR 5.0 gr. For lead bullets, Unique is great. It is suitable only for full power magnum handgun loads and .30 Carbine loads. As great as the .357 is, it doesnt show its potential unless you start handloading it. Employees and agents of Publishers Development Corp. are not eligible. Maximum versatility? and H-110, W296 and Hercules 2400 powders excellent for maximum loads If you find your way down to Rod & Gun of New Bedford Sunday you can try some of my .38 loads. My most-used load these days in a .357 Magnum sixgun is the Lyman #358156GC bullet over 14.0 grains of #2400. I'll get there and with everyone's help here I think things will go fairly well. Georgia Department of Natural Resources, State Agency: The snubnosed .38 and .45 ACP handloads also turned in good results. For the 140 grain JHP the Customer experience was, and still is, the primary focus, a key to the firms longevity and success. No substitutions or transfers to third parties allowed. Mail-in entries accepted; send postcards (no envelopes) to: GUNS Magazine, GOM Old West 2023, PO Box 488, Escondido, CA 92033. vtducrider said: Not looking for full power 357mag loads. They shoot very accurately out of my Model 586. 7. Bullets are .357 for jacketed and .358 for lead in diameter. When you want to go up to heavier loads in the mag cases try IMR4227 or 2400. The .357 remains the best selling of Smith & Wesson Model 586: Reviewing A .357 Revolver With Class. Can't seem to find any load data for these specific bullets. Discussion in 'Handloading and Reloading' started by Throwingdown, May 26, 2009. That is especially true if you handload. In 1935, Smith & Wesson introduced the .357 Magnum. It gives the same or better velocities than Hodgdon's H110 and Wichester's Win296 (which are the same powder and either would be my second choice with Herc 2400 coming in third) at about 2/3 the pressure. This includes the majority of mainstream handgun rounds including the 9mm, 38 Special, 40 S&W, and 45 ACP. Home Of The First Capitol Of The Confederate State, REPUBLIC OF TEXAS, DISTRICT OF ROUND ROCK. Titegroup is an excellent powder for target and mid range loads. back in the 1930s) should reach over 1500 f.p.s. pressures may have been even higher; and if you shoot one of those . Associated taxes and fees are the responsibility of winners. Clays, Universal, HP38, HS6 and H4895 are products of Hodgdon Powders. 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I would exclude H110 altogether. July 31, 2021. Alliant Powder Smokeless Powders. Figure 3. For .357 the old standby was 2400. The .357 Sig handloads could have been loaded even hotter. Associated taxes and fees are the responsibility of winners. If you do use it in your 357Mag revolver, could you do a simple test for us? State Agency: The faster it burns after ignition, the less unburnt powder and "muzzle flash" on shorter-barreled guns, and quicker velocity attainment on longer-barreled ones. Aside from your .357 loads, you can fire several others in it, including the .38 Short and Long Colt and the .38 Special. But you can download a .357 magnum to get a round that still has the powerful feel but is a little less harsh on the hands. Deployed military should use stateside address. I do like H110 in the .357 and .44 in both the revolvers and the carbines. Marc - accipere facile, sed sumite! Michigan Deptartment of Natural Resources, State Agency: Just remember, in .357 Magnum, some powders can be too fast. To protect the privacy and security of winners, names will not be made public. We don't want you to blow yourself or your guns up either. Terms and Conditions and Privacy Policy. A Magnum primer will help get a complete burn with HP38/W231. If the tolerances are close between minimum and maximum loads, imagine what the effect of different bullets might be. By FortuneCookie45LC. other. I have H110 for my 357 Magnum hot loads however, not recommended for lead bullets due to needing to keep the velocity down. (III) Giveaway winner(s) chosen by random drawing. Even though two bullets have the same weight, they may have considerably different bearing surfaces and other characteristics that alter their performance and chamber pressure characteristics. Most likely I'll be loading lead bullets. be driven to a MV of 1005 fps by 8.8 grains of HS6 powder, or 1142 fps Hodgdon CFE Pistol is best suited for cartridges producing the middle range of power (non-magnum pistol loads in most calibers including 500 S&W). Virginia Department of Wildlife Resources, State Agency: I'd have to agree with some , 2400 and unique . Of course, you can now get .357 Magnum power in the same package, but the recoil and muzzle blast are intimidating enough that many who own the mini magnums stoke the chambers with +P .38 loads. Box 488, Escondido, CA 92033. To protect the privacy and security of winners, names will not be made public. All entries must be received by giveaway end date. These are good full power hunting loads. I get 950 fps with an Ideal 358156GC flat nose cast bullet and 3.7 grains of 700x out of my Henry rifle in .357. Nevada Department of Wildlife, State Agency: Full power .357 magnum loads out of a rifle can be fired all day with a satisfying thump and authoritative impact on reactive targets downrange. (IV) Winners must undergo a background check (if required) and comply with all other federal, state and local laws. Cartridges page. 10 gauge. Upgrade efforts paused for now. Box 488, Escondido, CA 92033. Here are the features to watch out for. Reloading Handbook, 2nd edition. Kentucky Department of Fish & Wildlife Resources, State Agency: $36.52. With regards, 357Mag The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. 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I just use a minimum charge of 15gr of 296 with 158gr coated lead bullets. Come join the discussion about performance, gunsmithing, troubleshooting, reviews, accessories, classifieds, and more! Contest open to U.S. residents only. Not bad for jacketed either, but wont launch em near as fast as 2400 or H110. I'm assuming I can just use any 170 gr bullet data but want to make sure. I'm probably gonna run off about 750 rounds, using hard cast 158 grain SWC. The difference between the 158 and 180 grain bullets on the pins is remarkable. Heavy Is Accurate. Mississippi Deptartment of Wildlife, Fisheries & Parks, State Agency: Illinois Department of Natural Resources, State Agency: I'm looking for the best powder to load .357. It is just my opinion based on my experience and knowledge. I have been reloading What should the discerning collector look for in a potential buy? Just me, and, I have never had a bad time using Titegroup but, sticking to good reloading practices dictates that there should be enough case fill so as to avoid any possibility of a double charge. For hotter .357 Magnum loads, any of the Hornady 158-grain jacketed bullets (hollow points, flat points, and full metal jacket flat points) work superbly well with 15.7 . All right are Reserved Reload Ammo, Reloading The .45 ACP (Automatic Colt Pistol), 1,075 (plated, actual in 7 bbl revolver), 1,307 max (Enforcer load below is SWC + GC ), ,108 (as of 2008 HP38 & W231 are the same), 1,610 MAX a Commercial JSP load averages 1,503 fps, 1,208 Hi=1244, Lo=1179, ES=65 (good load). Deployed military should use stateside address. Purchase A PDF Download Of The GUNS Magazine December 2019 Issue Now! Surprisingly, or not so surprisingly depending upon your point of view, factory chambered leverguns for the .44 Magnum were offered more than 15 years before arriving in .357 Magnum. Back. When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. Mine were tested with a 2 3/4" Ruger . (IV) Winners must undergo a background check (when required) and comply with all other federal, state and local laws. With Titegroup, say in 45ACP, you most likely could even put a triple charge in that case, I would be afraid of using it in any larger case. Contest void where prohibited by law. Ive also never loaded a factory round into my Model 13 and had it shoot to point of aim the way I want it to. of TrailBoss), (Note H110 & W296 are the same as of 2008 as is HP-38 & W231), (IMR 4227 is same as H-4227 if made in Australia), (bullets seated deeper = higher pressures) (I dont recommend lead at over 900 Hodgdon - 700-X. davestarbuck posted this 06 December 2010. I tried 2205 in a 9 3/4" Ruger Super Red Hawk and there was lots of unburnt powder, it . .357 Magnum - Published Manufacturer Loading Data. JSP, .357 with JHP, .357 with JSP. rickyd.41Mag said: HP 38/W231 is my most widely used powder.

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