In a biblical church the pastor is the overseers or leaders of the congregation. He did not belong to, nor was part of the any ekklesia. Yes he baptized, but His baptism was the baptism of repentance (Matt. The Independent Baptist believes that to join with churches who teach and practice false doctrine is condone and even show approval of Biblical error and that all doctrinal error is sin. Thus, resolving to follow the Lords commands in truth, in March, 1639 he formed the first Baptist church on American soil. (I Corinthians 15:1-4) Further, if a person is truly saved and strictly follows the principles of the New Testament he will in a true sense be a Baptist whether he uses the name or not. The list is endless. May The Lord bless us, and keep us: The Lord make his face shine upon us, and be gracious unto us: The Lord lift up his countenance upon us, and give us peace. It is one made up of baptized believers organized in a local congregation for fellowship, teaching and evangelism. In other words, when the Bible speaks, the words have a literal meaning and that it the meaning God intended. In what areas? I have heard people argue that a certain type of dress is more attractive to the world, or woman wearing dresses sets them apart as being different. Individuals may also seek membership, and those who do are usually ministers, missionaries, Bible teachers, evangelists, editors of Christian periodicals, or students. Thus the words Independent and Fundamental have been added by many Baptist churches to further identify themselves as truly Bible believing churches and to show a distinction between themselves and Baptist churches who were not following Gods word. (David Benedict, A General History of the Baptist Denomination in American, and Other Parts of the World, London: Lincoln and Edmands, Nr. One of the cops finally suggested giving them all their American money and theyd be free to go with a warning. God has not entrusted that authority to impart salvation to any man or church. Independent Church. I should have or you should have? Many men have suffered and given their fortunes and their lives to hold the name in truth. The first Baptist church in New York was started by William Wichendon, in 1656. It was horrible. 1 Timothy 5:17 Deception, 61. The Dutch colony of New York for a time persecuted Baptists within its territories. Both are true and one doesnt cancel out the other. It cannot be stated too often that the importance of these churches was not in their name, but in what they believed and practiced. : Yes Address: 1101 Pennsylvania Ave Monaca Pennsylvania 15061 United States Service Times: Sunday School 9:30, Sunday Morning 10:30, Sunday Evening: N/A as of 2/2023, Wednesday 6:30 Phone: 724-252-7885 Pastor's Name: Kevin Draganac If people would only study the Word of God for themselves and stop being pew sitters and believe everything the pastor says of gospel truth theyd be able to spot a false doctrine/teacher a mile away. Some more deception I would like to expose are these IFB web sites. I think Lynne has been fed a large dose of legalism, and just cant seem to escape it. When people ask me what church I am a member of, I always tell them the Heavenly Church, wherever and whoever that is. I feel silly because some of the things I stood up for on this site are the same things that made me leave. In other areas Baptist churches were being formed about this same time. p.s. He told me that he attends a independent Baptist Church and stressed the importance of the small ( i ) in the name. Further, they reject so-called scriptures of modern day so called prophets. None of us that I know of follow his every word like it was the Gospel truth. A true New Testament church bases its faith, practice and authority solely in the Word of God. They practice the Biblical teachings of separation as stated in Ephesians 5:11, which says, Have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them. I would either be kicked out or asked to put on something to wear. Visit Pinterests profile on Pinterest. Now when the head of a church & all dem that fall in line must appply apsotast (like openly Gay Pastor, etc) than you should have some of them on here big. 1 Peter 3:16, Having a good conscience; that, whereas they speak evil of you, as of evildoers, they may be ashamed that falsely accuse your good conversation in Christ. One Baptist church, however, did begin after 1714, in Surry Country, and another at Burleigh, Virginia. I believe any church that does that is potentially cultic because that means they worship the preacher rather than the Lord. Would you agree with me on this? Baptist also believe the Bible interprets itself, and that Christ is the only head of the church. Lynne, However, history does not record even one Anabaptist group or church becoming or founding a Baptist church. teaching that all sex is dirty, etc..), I see no sense in throwing the baby out with the bath water. Your reasoning is faulty. Although we gladly accept donations offered it is not required. This is the biggest wrong teaching of the Churches of Christ, although you have lots of company in this wrong belief, it is still wrong teaching. Even if a church blows the interpretation of verses like this and sets up what you refer to as a hierarchy, I feel you are in error to claim that God has no party with them, see for reference the 7 churches in Revelation which had great things going for them, but Christ had to deal with their errors. First I find your demeaning undertone disheartening. In Germany, the state church is Lutheran and in England, the Anglican church, France, the Roman Catholic Church, etc. No one I have ever talked to or debated can show me that money is ever to be considered a tithe. Please elaborate, Should have said of course no singing with musical accompaniment.. (For a explanation of the biblical role of deacons please go to http://bible-truth.org/deacon.html, The pastor of the church is called by majority vote of the congregation. We had an elderly woman that lifted her hands and shouted to the Lord the entire service before she went home to be with Him. Exposing the Dangerous Teachings of the Independent Fundamental Baptist (IFB) Denomination, Independent Fundamental Baptist (IFB) Deception 2009-2020, Independent Fundamental Baptist (IFB) Deception. I understand what you are saying by the verses you referenced in John. It is difficult to trace Baptist churches down through history. The name Independent Fundamental Baptist Church is used traditionally by churches which pattern themselves strictly after the example of the early church as found in the New Testament. Nothing comforted. Please anyone readng this, go back and take a couple weeks and seriously read through the gospels again, over and over, our Lord talks about, and condemns pharisees and others for dressing up the outside and not being concerned about the inside, btw if the inside is right the outside will follow. Anyone who differed with the practices of the State church were subject to great persecution. Look at Ezekiel 33. (P.S. I do not agree with the IFB on their viewpoint of strict dress standards. But it is for these very reasons that I and millions of other Americans cant understand it. Christians should be recognized by their love for Jesus and one another. But this issue is just another one that the IFBs get wrong, worrying themselves over externals as opposed to the internals. halftruth and deception ministries. (1 Tim. Hear personal testimonies and watch missionary slideshows with RealAudio narratives. Not all IFB churches are this way. As a matter of fact, you cannot be a member of a Calvary Chapel. In Europe, Protestant churches are state churches and supported to some degree by government imposed taxes. The Puritans were dissenters from the Church of England. The Pharisees tithed on all their belongings. Seeking to be faithful to the Word of God, the early Bible church movement sought to provide fellowship, counsel, and cooperation. King James (KJV) Independent Fundamental Baptist Churches in Arkansas. I would like comment on each trait if you dont mind: After Henry VII separated England from the Roman Catholic Church the Baptist faired no better. Later in history, around 600 AD, Austin, Catholic monk, was sent to Britain by Pope Gregory the Great. Found you after all this time!!! It seems like in the church I personally attended, that the powertrip I saw actually stemmed from a total lack of outside maturity from the church in general. Its nothing personal, just logic. This was the birth of Protestant churches. If someone just wanted to wear their socks and nothing else to Church they would probably not be allowed in most Churches. Hah Im really the only reply to this incredible read?! Drinkers go to the next town to buy their drinks. I can certainly forgive you. If only people would study more to know the voice of their Savior, there would be no one to follow the false teachers. Thanks and may God bless. I am having a hard time figuring you out. Henry Jacob. So I still think Just about every Church has Strict dress Standards whether they know it or not. If your church does teach the following then watch out, you are probably in a manipulating extreme IFB church situation. The Anabaptists were mostly a God-fearing group of people. So, IT IS in the New Testament! You are correct, I was surprised. Being curious, I tried the Episcopal church and am now making arrangements for my confirmation. Because Knolleys refused to baptize infants and preached against it he was banned from the colony by the famous Puritan governor Cotton Mather. He then baptized himself (which is not biblical) and then the others of his congregation. The Great Awakening stirred religious interests in the colonies and a reported great revival took place. Make no mistake though baptism will never save anyone! He was talking about ceremonial law not moral law I think you are confusing those two. I love the way David Hayword (aka The nakedpastor) explains some of the problem. But wouldnt Paul himself, or the original church to whom the letter was sent, count as outside authority and control? History records the members of this Baptist church went back to England or remained in Holland and joined Mennonites. @greg However, bottom lineJesus never shared but truth to all incl Phairsees so if His position on tithing was as being not to be left undonethan I believe it stands as something that is good to do, pleasing to God. In 1631, he arrived in Boston. In 1606, after nine months of soul-searching and study of the New Testament he was convinced that the doctrines and practices of the Church of England were not Biblical, and thus he resigned as priest and left the church. Also, as a Southern Baptist, I am wondering if your fifth distinctive disqualifies my congregation, since we are members of the Southern Baptist Convention. I dont know awhole lot about the Episcopal church, but Im sure there are some wonderful folks there. I think it is exactly right to see that without divine drawing, no one ever would come to Christ. Cooper P. Abrams, III ALL RIGHTS RESERVED: This publication has been reprinted with permission from the author. I think a biblical case can be made for modesty, for both men and women, beyond that, you would be hard-pressed to find anything else. I think most people would agree with me on this. In fact the Roman Church can only trace its history back to 313 AD when the Roman Emperor Constantine made Christianity a legal religion. God does not lead His children by rules. Please see the Tithing Deception and Tithe 10% or Get Punished articles for more information. Just curious. The Scripture: It is entirely inerrant and sufficient for all Christian life. The New Testament is the authority in all matters of faith and practice. Later Presbyterians, Episcopalians and Methodist were added to the lists of Protestants denominations. These you ought to have done, without leaving the others undone.. Tithing is not for God. The cause is clear. But if your wife and daughters are dressing immodestly to draw attention to their bodies, theyre not dressing in a Christ-honoring way Ministry experience: Over thirty years of experience in Independent, Fundamental Baptist Churches, serving in . They were a New Testament church, not because of a succession of churches or men, but because they formed their church on the principles of the New Testament. You have it backwards. We have the freedom to give as much as we like, without any compulsion. A tithe was to be given by Jews under law to a levitical priest and as far as I can tell, it was always a product from the land, be it animals or some sort of plant life. This was the best onemembers in our church raise hands, say amen, clap after special music (GASP! Don't expect anything contemporary or liberal. It is my conviction that it is not possible to trace an unbroken line of Baptist churches from Christ until today. this is a great book research on cultist church Thomas Gould, died in 1675 an untimely death, partially because of his having his health broken by several long imprisonments. He, however, continued to preach by holding services in his own home. I appreciate your stand for the cause of Christ, and remember always to rely on the blessed Word of God to lead and guide you, there will be times perhaps, when someone you really look up to is promoting ideas that are not biblical and yet they try to use the bible to convince you of their veracity. Believers are not set apart by the clothing they wear so much as their conduct, character, and lifestyle. What Is An Independent Fundamental Baptist? 8. This free resource is here to help you find an independent Baptist church in your area or while traveling. And I dont study my Bible enough and would say no one does. Suppose too that some of them on reading that Bible were to believe and repent of their sins and place their trust in Gods Son and His redemption for personal sin. I doubt I would be allowed to wear Just a Speedo to any Church on a regular basis. He was much displeased with the Puritan theocracy. For example these same people existed when He taught to look upon a woman with lust was Adultry & not just the physcial act. That godly Deacon, so righteous on the outside, may have deep dark unrepentant sins no one know about. Furthermore I believe it involved religion. The line of English churches that can be traced, who called themselves Baptists, began in 1610 in Holland. Im sure you realize all this, but I thought I would throw my voice in it. Tithing preceded the NT and ended with the establishment of the New Covenant. It is difficult to document these congregations because they were rarely in the spot light of history. (See Acts 20:28, Hebrews 13:7). This was the first time in the history of the world that a government was established which granted religious freedom! when I said I hear a lot that the IFB has strict dress standards. I admitted, in my comment, that I was somewhat caustic in my writing (I could definitely get better in that department) but I re-read what I wrote and didnt think it was horrible. One young lady began attending a non IFB Baptist church. A comprehensive Independent Baptist Church Directory listing over 8000 churches. The New Independent Fundamental Baptist (New IFB) movement is a loose network of independent churches concentrated in the U.S. connected by their belief in certain religious doctrines and a shared brand of deeply anti-LGBTQ and antisemitic teachings. But the police proceeded to arrest them and throw them in jail. What gets my goat on this style of preaching is that as much as these baptists act as though they follow nothing but the scripture, it seems they dont read it or study it much. They reject the efforts of the many who spiritually interpret the Scriptures, placing hidden or specially revealed meanings to the words of the Bible. They loved the Lord and many of them gave their lives and fortunes for the sake of Christ. I have spoken to my pastor about this, and he insists that its fine for me as a parishioner to come as I am, but he as a pastor should be dressed alittle better, I told him if that is a personal conviction that is fine, but did he have any scripture to support that, of course he didnt. The church government of many Independent Baptist churches are to have pastors and deacons as officers of the local church. The pastor's name is Kevin Draganac. There were however, many Baptists who loved the Word of God and held true to it and refused to abandon teaching the New Testament. From a Calvary Chapel web site: We do not maintain church membership; You must be born again spiritually to join the church of Jesus Christ, therefore membership is in the whole church of Jesus, not just our local fellowship., This practice stems from their Moses model (top down) style of church leadership. IndependentBaptist.com was founded in an attempt to bring back the principles that lifted our movement in the 60's and 70's and that need to be revived in this day. Many Baptist churches have Trustees, but their position was established in order to have legal signatories to sign legal documents of the church. G.L. America needs great Independent Baptist churches again. 2 Timothy 2:24, And the servant of the Lord must not strive; but be gentle unto all men, apt to teach, patient. I am divorced, and I always sit in the front rows. Its the phraseology itself that one calls into question as being logical or illogical. To fulfill something as in Jesus fulfilled the law means that it is satisfied, meaning that it is no longer needed. A couple of things to consider here, first he was speaking to Pharisees, and they were in fact still under law. So you made assumptions based on very little. To only teach from the New Testament and ignoring the old is not using the whole Word of God. 13:8-10). Our Mission Is to help you find a bible believing church, an Independent Fundamental Baptist Church, that seeks to serve and honor the Lord Jesus Christ. He records that five hundred others who were identified as Anabaptists were also killed in England during this period. So, I guess we are not all as rigid as one would believe from some comments. Encyclopaedia Britannica's editors oversee subject areas in which they have extensive knowledge, whether from years of experience gained by working on that content or via study for an advanced degree. Some of these churches have gone so far to even deny the fundamental teachings of the Bible, such as the deity of Christ, the virgin birth and salvation by the Grace of God, through faith. They are guilty of not holding the Head, the Lord Jesus Christ. PEOPLE are the problem! It began with a man named John Smyth who was a bishop in the Church of England. In 1688 a Baptist church was organized at Pennepeck, Pennsylvania with twelve members. Churches dont have the right to make rules about dress apart from Scriptural guidelines and principles. Each year members profess 16 articles of faith that include the original five points of fundamentalismthe literal truth of divinely inspired scripture, the Virgin Birth and deity of Christ, substitutionary atonement through Christ, the Resurrection, and the Second Coming of Christ. Do you think you can bring others to Christ in this manner? 71 N., De Queen, Arkansas 71832, United States of America DeQueen Flag Listing Claim This Listing Arbanna Baptist Church For an example there is Patrick of Ireland. I chose to focus on the doctrine of separation as typically understood by Independent Baptists (I was one). Ok, so Im pretty sure you are referring to the Church of Christ that was founded by good ol Thomas Campbell (1763-1854) He was a fine Scottish Presbyterian who left Ireland to come to western PA. in 1807. This directory, containing close to 10,000 churches and counting, is aimed at getting you the information you need when you need it. So the the issue is that there has to be a Biblical standard for dress. Yes, we do preach not to be unequally yolked with non-belivers and I agree with that. Tithing is still a required act in obedience just like loving the Lord thy God and loving thy neighbor as thyself is. Shortly after that, because of his doctrinal preaching, he was forced to leave Salem and went for a short time to Plymouth. I am personally done with religion If asked what religion I am, my standard answer is christian even though I am still attending a little Baptist Church. Lynne, why is tithing so important to you anyway? We dress however we want, however, my Pastor chides me in good nature, because I frequently wear black clothing, but he is not being critical. Some Baptists such as the Landmark Baptist and those often referred to as Today there are at least a hundred different groups which all themselves Baptist. Many of these churches have conflicting beliefs and practices. True New Testament Christians have always rejected such unbiblical ideas. These New Testament believers rejected every attempt to include them in with the other churches who compromised and accepted the Roman governments money, rule and authority. Even though they may have been uner the law as you sayJesus did not cease sharing the fuller truth of the Law & stretching us to grasp the fullfillment of the Law. It is well to note the Pilgrims were also Puritans, and Puritans were Protestants who had left the Church of England. That is what saved believers have always believed, because that is what the New Testament which is Gods Word to man says. Some years ago when I was attempting to find another church for my family to attend so as to escape a spiritually abusive IFB, I found myself at a Church of Christ that had split from the large COC in town.

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